• Asks Kevin about Venezuela oil deal impact on markets and longer-term oil price implications.
    Sam
  • Kevin Gordon
    Venezuela oil deal is fluid; not economically significant to US, not a near-term needle mover. Path of least resistance for oil prices is probably lower, continuing past year's trend. More supply boosts disinflation (positive for economy) but negative for energy stocks.
  • Asks Cooper about mixed labor data (ISM services PMI strong, but low hiring/firing) and lack of market movement.
    Sam
  • Cooper Howard
    Labor data confirms no-hire/no-fire trend, softening but not falling off a cliff. Longer-term treasuries have been rangebound for months; doesn't see them breaking out unless data moves significantly. Watching Friday jobs report (expecting softer print).
  • Asks Kevin about labor market as both headwind and tailwind for 2026.
    Sam
  • Kevin Gordon
    Unemployment increase magnitude matches prior recessions, but rise is slowest ever. Characterized by industry churn (youth, manufacturing, federal in recession; health/education strong). Hiring rate at cycle low but no major pickup in layoffs. 2026 may see private workforce stabilization without federal hiring aid.
  • Asks Cooper about next catalyst for meaningful market move given geopolitical tensions being ignored.
    Sam
  • Cooper Howard
    Expects longer-term treasuries to stay rangebound near-term due to elevated uncertainty/instability (Venezuela, Greenland, Fed policy) keeping term premium high, putting lower bound on 10-year yields. Longer-term (rest of 2026), expects moderate uptick in longer-term yields and yield curve steepening. Fed may cut 1-2 times starting mid-year.
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