• We have an FOMC meeting next week. If we have a name before that meeting, does it change the outcome of that meeting?
    Vonnie Quinn
  • Kathy Jones
    Not sure it changes the outcome, but it might change perception around where we're headed in terms of Fed policy. Whoever is appointed will advocate for more rate cuts as the president has indicated. That could make investors nervous because it could imply a willingness to tolerate more inflation and would probably steepen the yield curve.
  • We're looking at a December rate cut. Markets are almost fully pricing that in now. Are you in that camp and what happens then to the two to three more rate cuts you see next year?
    Vonnie Quinn
  • Kathy Jones
    I'm surprised at dovish comments from Fed officials. At this stage, inflation is still hovering around 3%, unemployment is roughly 4.5% and stable. The case for rate cuts isn't particularly strong. It's in anticipation of weakening labor market, but that might be more structural than cyclical and won't be addressed by rate cuts.
  • What would a dovish Fed chair portend for the middle of next year onwards? Does that change the terminal rate?
    Vonnie Quinn
  • Kathy Jones
    If they push the terminal rate even lower in projections or forecast more rate cuts, we just steepen the yield curve and get inflation expectations lifting long term yields. It's precarious because you advocate for rate cuts but without economic weakness or declining inflation, all you get is a steeper yield curve.
  • On the labor market, do you expect a significant ramp up in the rate of jobless next year?
    Vonnie Quinn
  • Kathy Jones
    No. We're seeing continuation of stable 'no hire, no fire' environment with relatively stable unemployment rate. We're shrinking the size of the labor force due to immigration policies, so you don't need much job growth to maintain unemployment rate.
  • What is next for the economy? We're getting productivity gains, healthy earnings, consumer holding in there. Is everything hunky dory next year?
    Vonnie Quinn
  • Kathy Jones
    That would be a bold prediction. We might get solid growth rate, but that might actually keep inflation elevated instead of coming down. There's a two-tier economy: higher income people doing fine with assets up and incomes keeping pace, but lower income people not keeping up with cost of living increases.
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