• Confirming guest's view: no rate cuts this year, next move is a hike in 2027.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    Core PCE inflation next week will be above 3%, retail sales suggest strong Q4 GDP growth, so case for near-term cut is weak.
  • Michael Feroli
    As time goes on, FOMC will revise up their estimate of the neutral interest rate, and the case for rate cuts goes down.
  • Asks if Fed is already pressing on the gas given Larry Lindsey's view that rates are accommodative.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    Wouldn't say Fed is pressing on the gas, but case that Fed is restraining economy with rates in high threes doesn't jibe with real economy or financial markets.
  • Asks why labor market is weak with rising unemployment if economy is strong.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    Slow job growth is due to slow labor supply growth; unemployment rate upward momentum seems arrested recently.
  • Asks if 40-50k monthly job growth is the new normal versus previous 150-200k.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    New normal in job growth may be 0-50k due to demographics and immigration policy changes.
  • Asks if this explains 10-year yield moving from 5% to below 4% then reversing higher.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    That's part of it, Fed moving in that period has been a factor too.
  • Notes market still pricing 1-2 cuts, so if guest is right, market would be caught offsides.
    Kelly
  • Michael Feroli
    Market already expects no action in January, can gradually reset expectations through the year.
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