• Introduces topic: bond market volatility has subsided, which some see as a harbinger for a bond rally. Asks for thoughts.
    Phil
  • Jim Bianco
    Confirms bond rally and reduced volatility due to increased certainty, but warns this can change next year based on the new Fed chair mandate.
  • Asks if it's too early to know where inflation ends up next year, given calm signaled by inflation swap rates.
    Phil
  • Jim Bianco
    Argues we are in a '3-ish% inflation world,' not sub-2%. This matters for interest rates and will keep them at current levels or maybe higher.
  • Asks if AGG (bond ETF) is a buy, given Bianco's concern about the 10-year yield not breaking below 3% and what it means for the secular bull market.
    Phil
  • Jim Bianco
    States the secular bull market in bonds ended in 2020. Expects the bond market to 'stall out a little bit in terms of yields going up,' but coupons still provide return.
  • Asks about the consumer's role next year given poor sentiment but potential for raises, better economy, and tax refunds.
    Phil
  • Jim Bianco
    Agrees consumer could rebound, which would be appropriate for higher interest rates. Higher rates are not bad unless the economy is overleveraged.
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