• Introduces Lori Wallach to discuss tariffs and legal authorities after Supreme Court ruling.
    Joe Mathieu
  • Lori Wallach
    The president is looking to re-establish the same rate of tariffs he had under IEEPA using a smorgasbord of different congressional delegations of tariff authority.
  • Asks about tariff limits under other legal authorities beyond IEEPA.
    Kailey Leinz
  • Lori Wallach
    Explains Section 338 allows up to 50% tariffs for unlimited time based on presidential finding of discrimination. Sections 232 and 301 have procedures but no limits on tariff height or duration.
  • Asks how long investigations for other tariff authorities might last and if they could outlast midterms.
    Joe Mathieu
  • Lori Wallach
    Section 338 process can be very speedy. Section 232 and 301 investigations depend on scope and quality - good ones can take 4-5 months. Big X-factor is Section 122 expires July 24th, requiring Congressional extension.
  • Asks about legal challenges to Section 122 balance of payments justification.
    Kailey Leinz
  • Lori Wallach
    Challenges will certainly be filed but unlikely to be resolved in 5 months. White House has made a case that's not wrong based on current account balance interpretation.
  • Asks about Congressman Jason Smith's statement that there will be no refunds and what that means for companies like Costco that filed suits.
    Joe Mathieu
  • Lori Wallach
    Refunds are a 'how' question not an 'if' question. Extremely difficult to figure out fair way due to gap between who paid at customs and who actually bore cost.
  • Asks about Senator Sherrod Brown's proposal for $1,336 refunds to Ohio households.
    Kailey Leinz
  • Lori Wallach
    Given the complexity, direct checks might be as fair as any approach since there will be unfairness regardless. Consumers often bore costs through price gouging under cover of tariffs.
  • Asks if President Trump can collect more tariff revenue under new authorities than under IEEPA.
    Joe Mathieu
  • Lori Wallach
    Hypothetically possible but somewhat improbable. Legally they could approximate same tariff levels and bring in similar $150 billion revenue in short term.
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