The Fed will be paralyzed by divisions unless it takes a strategic view, says Mohamed El-Erian

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When we want to talk about the Fed rates and so much more with Muhammad Al-Arihan, he was a course professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Warden School of Business Chief of Economic Advisor. at Aliens and so much more friend of Squack. We haven't had a chance to talk to my homets since we heard from Jay Powell last week. I think as open as we've ever heard and really talk about dissension. on the board of the Fed in terms of what comes next. And I'm curious what your perspective was coming out of that. press conference. and how clear he was about that.

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Mohamed El-Erian

So it was very clear that there are make the divisions. within the FOMC and with heard sins. The extent of those divisions They relate to whether you worry more about inflation or you worry more about unemployment. The second issue that's clear is that there's different views as to what you do on the uncertainty And the uncertainty comes from the lack of federal data Some people feel that you slow down and therefore you should stay on hold. Other people say no, the destination is the same. We should continue going towards lower rates. That is not going to be resolved unless. The Fed takes a strategic view of the economy. And in particular, does it believe we are on the verge of a productivity search, which I think we are. And secondly, doesn't believe that what's happening to the label market. has to do with demand as much as supply, which I think. it has, but unless the Fed is willing to take a strategic view Andrew, that can be paralyzed by divisions.

Go back and just... Hit the employment piece because you just made a sort of interesting observation about what you think is driving this. You don't think it's a demand issue, you think it's a supply issue where you're saying it's the opposite.

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Mohamed El-Erian

It's both. So definitely we're going to see the coupling of growth from employment. Part of that has to do with AI, part of that has to do with the change behavior among companies. But there's also a demand element. that we are seeing. in place. So it's both. If it were only supply. then the Fed would not cut. but because as a demand element and because we are on the verge of a productivity increase. There is an argument why the Fed should continue cutting.

So it sounds like you would cut.

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Mohamed El-Erian

Oh absolutely, I would cut in December, I would have started cutting into lie. We should not get in the way. of this. continued strong growth. because it offers the solution to a lot of other things in the economy. And we just have to get used to something you've heard me say. which is that inflation is going to stick around the 2.5 to 3%. from wild And that's okay because it's stable. The most important thing is stable inflation and we've seen inflation expectations haven't been de-ancored.

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